Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:48 pm
Is there any way of curing a birdsnest if it occurs?
Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:10 pm
keep picking the line with you fingers and pulling the knots out :lol: practice makes perfect
Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:24 pm
and if you're anything like the rest of us you'll have, a LOT of practice! :lol:
Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:47 pm
Try to stop it from happening in the first place....I dont know what reel or what line your using, but it helps when your just getting used to casting a multiplier to use a heavier line....on a 6500 most people use 15lb line.....use 20lb or even 25lb......it cuts your distance down but it will help you get used to the reel and then you can drop down to thinner line once you have more control.
Picking out a nest is never good, sometime you burn the line...next cast it will crack off, or worse still snap with a fish on.
Tom.
Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:12 pm
Conor P wrote:Is there any way of curing a birdsnest if it occurs?
connor ,
there is no way you will cure a birds nest if it is going to happen
1/try to spread line even on the retrieve
2/constant pressure /rod reel on retrieve
3/smooth casting action
4/reel lubed andbreaks set
5/baited up and ready to go{+clipped down rig}
6/hit the ffff,,,ing horizon if i goes you have done it
7/ birdie ,,,,back to square 1
gee
Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:11 am
if you see a birds nest beginning to form you can stop the spool as fast as possible, but you will be risking a burnt thumb.
like tom said, use nice and heavy line at first.
anyway, i would say stick at it even if you are getting the odd birds nest as being able to unpick a birdy quickly is a useful skill to have. not kidding.
Alex.
Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:24 am
hi mate, what i used to do was have the breaks set on full and thumb the spool until i got use to stopping it in time, then i slowly begain to ease off on the breaks, when fishing i look out for the splash as the lead hits the water, then i stop the spool(it usually birdies at this point) at night it different but in time you will learn by feel or sound when to stop it, but it will take time, i still get the odd birdie not as bad, sometimes if i do get a bad one then i just cut the birdie out and respool the line(why i alway have a backup reel), hope it helps and best of luck
Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:59 am
Hey Conor, the birdsnest thing is overrated, concentrate on casting smoothly and work in a field with just a weight on first.
Start lobbing easy casts 15-20 feet, then get longer and longer, you'll get the feel for it soon enough.
Don't be too worried about the birdy, if you believe they're going to happen, then they probably will.
I'm pretty new to multis and I can count on one hand the amount of serious birdsnests that I've had, only one crack off too and that was on a field while practising, so don't worry too much about them, just get down to fishing and don't let it occupy your thoughts.
Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:57 am
Just as the last few posts say, everyone gets them the odd time, its keeping them to a min thats the goal, any combo of either thinker line and more mags on (if magnets are used) or 2 brake blocks and thicker oil in the bearings, keeping it all smooth with no jerks or snatching the cast, just start easy and work your way up untill your confidence builds, hope this help. Eoin how are you getting on??
Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:46 am
cazbass wrote:Conor P wrote:Is there any way of curing a birdsnest if it occurs?
connor ,
6/hit the ffff,,,ing horizon if i goes you have done it
I certainly wouldn't advise anybody changing over from a fixed spool to a multiplier to do try and hit the horizon, as Eoinmag says you should start off with smooth casts and not worry about distance, concentrate on learning how to stop the reel with your thumb before you start to worry about distance, and as Rockhopper said..start off with a heavier line. Goodluck.
Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:24 pm
I believe i what Eoin said...the first thing is mind set...dont afraid to have birdie...then u will get ur confident...most of the action influence by ur mind...when u got afraid to get birdie,then its gonna effect ur cast....
Some said brakes is for wimp....a training wheel....yeah....but it will make ur learning curve and process a lot more easier....so use and experienced them....try from the max setting and slowly reduce...
Practice...practice...practice....and practice....the distance will come....dont rush for it....u start at young age which is good for you....unlike with most other angler which start late and very hard to change the their style and bad habit in casting....end up with giving up of using multi....one thing with multi....the more u practice or using it....the more efficient u will be at it and become more comfortable using it....keep on using them u will come to some phase which u and ur reel is like one....give it a dark pitch black night and u still can cast and know when to feather and stop ur spool without even looking at the reel or the weight touching down.Ur thumb will become educated and gonna be the best brakes for the reel.....welcome to the thumb burner club.
Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:38 pm
i would suggest converting to a fixed spool reel . there virtually hassle free . especially in competitions were you dont have time to be worrying about birdnests and the other drawbacks associated with multipliers .the multipliers i think are just too high maintenance . the fixed spools are generally an easier reel to fish with unless you have been using the multiplier for some years . the only advantage in my opinion that the multiplier has over the fixed spool is when in competition casting at 200 yards plus. would anyone agree :?:
Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:47 pm
mason jnr wrote:i would suggest converting to a fixed spool reel . there virtually hassle free . especially in competitions were you dont have time to be worrying about birdnests and the other drawbacks associated with multipliers .the multipliers i think are just too high maintenance . the fixed spools are generally an easier reel to fish with unless you have been using the multiplier for some years . the only advantage in my opinion that the multiplier has over the fixed spool is when in competition casting at 200 yards plus. would anyone agree :?:
yep in comps i would have to agree, fix spool is the way to go, no hassle and quick to retrieve, but for me im all kitted out for the multi, i dont have a decent fixed spool for beachcasting or a rod, so im stuck with my abu's, but i love em, its important to look the part you know :wink: :lol: :lol:
Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:14 pm
"look the part" i think it wud be quite hard to confuse a fisherman for a footballer or any other sports person for that matter :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:00 pm
eric wrote:i dont have a decent fixed spool for beachcasting or a rod, so im stuck with my abu's, but i love em, its important to look the part you know :wink: :lol: :lol:
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