Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:22 pm

so he would have to sell 500 a month just 2 cover electricity expenses. before you consider time, effort, etc and it there would be even more time and effort involved in collecting them as hard backs, then you have the prob of trying to monitor the crab to sort out those that are ripe from those that arent. a dead crab will prob have a chain effect like with worms

Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:58 pm

i hope i am wrong but it just isnt possible wish it was as over 50 of my fish tanks would be full of em, and id be a very rich man

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:23 pm

he's paying that at the mo to cover his pleasure tanks, combined with the income from his clown fish and prawns he easily covers that, crabs would be a bonus.

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:37 pm

as dbrock said, i hope i am wrong,

if i am wrong,i'll be 1 of d 1st at his door :wink:

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:45 pm

i hope so too, i know nothing about crab mangement :oops:

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:26 pm

eric wrote:at the moment he has around twelve systems in his fish shed, he says it costs him around 500 euros a month for all the electricity and food, he's planing on converting 3 of those to crab systems.
if he cant breed them cost effectively he can always go collecting hardbacks but he's convinced he can do it.

exactly eric ,, collect the natural recsourse that is the answer now you are talking, one of the things i have found is collecting hard crabs 1/you dont know where they are in their peeling cycle,,2/ placement in a holding tank is not enough to incite a peel,3/feeding the crab is nessesary,4/possible heating will be required 5/reproducing the tides ie,,bring them out of the tank at regular intervals ,say day to day,,stopping feeding its a tough life been a crab keeper but fun!!!!!! :P :P

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:31 pm

paulocallaghan wrote:so he would have to sell 500 a month just 2 cover electricity expenses. before you consider time, effort, etc and it there would be even more time and effort involved in collecting them as hard backs, then you have the prob of trying to monitor the crab to sort out those that are ripe from those that arent. a dead crab will prob have a chain effect like with worms

Paul ,,
theres a definite way of setting up a tank for crab,same for worm , a natural bacterial tank ,death just feeds the bacteria and keeps the water cleaner

gee

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:41 pm

Paul ,,
theres a definite way of setting up a tank for crab,same for worm , a natural bacterial tank ,death just feeds the bacteria and keeps the water cleaner



caz if your keepin em make sure you get rid of dead fish or crabs rapidly as it raises the amonia levels firstly and then your nitrite and eventually your nitrate levels will go up to

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:59 pm

dbrock wrote:
Paul ,,
theres a definite way of setting up a tank for crab,same for worm , a natural bacterial tank ,death just feeds the bacteria and keeps the water cleaner



caz if your keepin em make sure you get rid of dead fish or crabs rapidly as it raises the amonia levels firstly and then your nitrite and eventually your nitrate levels will go up to

rock ,,,,i feed the crab on worm theres never any left but yes point taken on the fish,,how is your tank/s setup i am always up for swapping ideas
i do not use a man made filter i use a cockle /mussel shell filter therefor bacterial and if a worm dies it is just recycled into the system a great idea given to me from friends in the NE England where crabs are scarce

gee

Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:08 pm

ive a tropical fish shop caz and all our tanks are using air filters with sponges ,,, we are using a product called organic aqua,,,its basically matured bacteria ,, check it out here
http://www.organicaquariums.co.za/

it works amazing
but still running loads of test on it with crabs at the mo all going amazing so far ill keep you posted on it

Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:45 pm

guys i got it wrong :oops: he talking about something else when it came to the breeding , fire shrimp i think, i feel like a right dumbass
he still is going ahead wit the crabs but is planning on collecting them instead.
he has confirmed mail order will be available to ireland.

Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:26 am

eric wrote:guys i got it wrong


and after building so many hopes as well.. it would have been interesting to see how it would progress. but alas we will never find out :? :?

Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:50 am

eric wrote:guys i got it wrong :oops: he talking about something else when it came to the breeding , fire shrimp i think, i feel like a right dumbass
he still is going ahead wit the crabs but is planning on collecting them instead.
he has confirmed mail order will be available to ireland.


eric......I think your due another name change :evil:

Tom.

Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:58 am

i think were forgetting he is still planning on providing the crabs at the same prices, by mail order if needs be all year round. do not hate me

Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:07 am

so basically he is opening another bait shop,,,,

Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:37 pm

how many bait shops stock fresh peeler, green,velvet,edible on a year round basis.

Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:37 pm

well ill have his first 100 at a euro a crab any idea how long it will take to fill that order or when he is starting?

dave tilly will have crab 90 percent of the time ive found

Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:02 pm

he has to clear out a few tanks currently with livestock in them , cycle the tanks and collect the crab should be open for business for the new year i reckon.

Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:08 pm

cool well i want 100 for jan if he can get em

Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:11 pm

that sounds like a great idea. what area is your buddy based in? a couple of my mates would be game too.