Is braided worth it for the extra distance?

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Is braided worth it for the extra distance?

Postby Joeh21 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:40 pm

Hello everyone!
As i said in another post, im trying to get back into fishing.
Ive more gear than i know what to do with but Id like to sent one of my beach rods for distance.
Ive read about braid being good for getting it out there but its not the cheapest stuff...is it worth it? would i be better off with a longer rod?
Im using 2 6000 size reels
2 12" rods

Id like to have one out far and then the other close in, cover more ground etc

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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?

Postby donal domeney » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:36 am

You don't need braid to do that though the thinner diameter will help. There a plenty of brands of mono with a low diameter in or around .3/.32
A few things that will help would be a good casting technique, having the line on the spool out towards the tip of the spool and a proper weight to rod balance.
When you see “casting 4oz – 8oz” on a standard run of the mill sea rod don’t believe a word of it.
Sure it might be able to cast 8oz but more than likely it collapse under the strain. See too many anglers trying to cast 6oz leads on rods that are better suited to a 4oz/5oz lead. What might look like a small difference in weight can make a big difference in distance.
Maybe one of the casters on the site might pick up on this they have a better insight into these things

Now after all that I use braid for most of my fishing the best advantage is that fishing storm beaches with plenty of weed out there you have a better chance of getting you trace back.
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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?

Postby paddyc » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:28 pm

As Donal mentioned braid will give you a bit of extra distance but the cheaper option would be to opt for a thinner diameter mono and set the reel up correctly with the line just under the lip, and using a rod designed for what you want to do not what you hope it will do,, these little things all add up to more distance but nothing comes close to having a good casting technique. Being smooth and knowing where and when to put the power in is the key..

For off the ground style of casting have a look at Peter's vid:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HjOEGDp38q0
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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?

Postby johnwest » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:09 pm

Great little video there paddyc, some good tips in it. I have small hands and found the tip about gripping the reel first and then the rod, interesting, never heard that one before. In terms of line diameters around 0.3-0.32, do some reels not "flow" better with thicker diameters, e.g. the equivalent of typical 18lb line rather than 15lb line?
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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?

Postby paddyc » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:45 pm

johnwest wrote:In terms of line diameters around 0.3-0.32, do some reels not "flow" better with thicker diameters, e.g. the equivalent of typical 18lb line rather than 15lb line?

Thicker line will by nature peel off quick because of its large diameter but you will not achieve maximum distance because as the line level drops faster so friction will develop quicker,, the general rule is the thinner line comes off the reel easier because of its smaller diameter there is less friction coming off the reels spool lip as the line level doesn't drop as quick and less friction going through the guides also...
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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?

Postby john86 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:02 pm

Where abouts are you fishing and over what ground.
I fish the east coast and use between .20 and .25 for most of my fishing .
There are some pretty good low diameter mono lines on the market at the moment.
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